Blogs, Moodle, and the Future Debate

I’ve seen some recent posts on the topic of Moodle incorporating weblog features into its smorgasbord of options, and a discussion thread on whether or not this is a good idea. The root of the issue lies in the fundamental distinction between centralized and decentralized models of learning online, what Siemens calls a ’substantial future debate’. He writes:

Both approaches are needed, depending on intended tasks/outcomes. The concept of learning management systems (LMS) is a good example of this debate. Certain aspects of learning should be centralized (particularly enrolment), and others should be decentralized (interaction, content exploration, learner-created content (blogs, wikis), etc.). The problem arises when LMS vendors try to centralize processes (namely learning itself) that are best served in a decentralized model.

Having just finished up a semester-long EFL class in which we combined the use of Moodle with weblogs, I don’t see a pressing need for Moodle to incorporate them into its structure. Moodle was a base from which we organized our class activities and took weekly quizzes on content relevant to our language learning, which for us meant sentence combining, paragraph formation, word choice, expression, and editing previously posted work. This centralized space provided a ‘home-base’ from which learners interacted with the decentralized ‘world out there’ via their sharing on Flickr and Livejournal.

What I found through this experience was that although both models can co-exist in a harmonious relationship should the need for that be present, it doesn’t imply that one should try converting the other to fit its model. By incorporating weblogs, Moodle would have stripped my students of the far more developed social networking features of Flickr and Livejournal, not to mention the thriving communities that already exist there. The whole point of getting them to publish their thoughts on Livejournal and photos on Flickr was to take advantage of the social networking tools there to meet other people and use English in personally meaningful ways. Unless students are blogging on a Moodle install with thousands of diverse users, the conversation on those weblogs will most likely be limited to the classmates and teacher, in which case, the social forum feature would be a better choice. However, as social networking tools and methods become more sophisticated, along with the growth of international educational communities who support and celebrate decentralized, open, P2P learning, perhaps these issues won’t be as problematic.

We also should be aware that another important reason for getting students involved in using webpublishing and social networking tools is to provide them with the knowledge and skills to continue these activities on their own after the semester is finished. If they are enjoying their interaction with people from different cultures and countries, then they will naturally want to maintain those relationships and, more importantly, they will have learned the means for doing it. Can you imagine students wanting to continue publishing to their school Moodle blog after they move on? That’s unlikely due to the close association with the institution and all the emotional baggage that comes with it. Besides, do you think your educational institution would be interested in the longterm hosting business? Steer them toward decentralized, outsourced sites for hosting their publications and encourage them to engage in the open, self-directed, peer-to-peer form of communication.

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  1. CLT » Blog Archive » Blogs and VLEs - do they really fit together? on 08 Jun 2006 at 11:16 pm

    [...] I stumbled across an interesting debate on whether it’s best to encourage the use of established blog sites such as blogger.com rather than try and create course-centric blogs within the institution (and the VLE). This question was one that was already going on in my head, as to how blogs can work as part of a course - after the novelty wears off, is there enough of a community to maintain such an isolated course only ‘blogosphere’? Also, does it really have time to mature sufficiently in the concentrated time-span of a term length course? [...]

Comments

  1. Will Richardson wrote:

    Hi Aaron,
    Nice post. I go back and forth on this so much, I think, because the more I talk to teachers the more I hear the fear in their voice. There is a majority, I believe, that will not move toward a decentralized model easily, at least on the K-12 level. The idea that they can find naked pictures at Flickr, that their students could run into spam on their blogs or wikis really scares them. Personally, I find those possibilities to be part of the reality that is the Web and see them as teachable moments. But I understand their viewpoint. I see a blog in Moodle as the open door to social interaction from an otherwise closed environment. Maybe it’s not the greatest solution, but it may be a way to get students and teachers to understand blogs where they might not otherwise do so. And I agree that continuing a Moodle blog beyond school is probably not going to happen. But if that’s the way to bring them to the technology, and then we teach them alternatives afterwards… This is really a tough one for me. I “get” the decentralized approach and agree that in a perfect world, it’s the best way to go. Unfortunately, that sentiment is not shared widely among educators. So, what’s the best alternative? Still sorting through it all…

  2. Aaron wrote:

    Will, it’s so nice to hear this kind of feedback. I sometimes feel culturally isolated out here in Japan, out of touch with the US educational system and the people who make it what it is. Fear and habit are two things not easily overcome, so I suppose we could look at blogging features tacked on to an LMS to be a window on the world, a gate into reality.

    And I agree with you that we should embrace our confrontation with nudity, sex, drugs, violence, and spam in an institutional context as a positive thing, an opportunity to teach and learn and grow. The more we avoid dealing with these issues, the more we give up sharing our experience and wisdom (?) with young people about them. These are part of their world, so they should likewise be issues in the classroom.

  3. James Farmer wrote:

    Hi Aaron, I’d agree with you almost entirely. Moodle, Drupal, WebCT etc. etc. just don’t have the models for blogs use… they have value in other senses… but not as blogging tools.

    What we need are common standards, ineroperability and a move to tools doing what they do really well and not trying toi be all things to all people!

  4. James Farmer wrote:

    BTW, where’s your subscribe to comements plugin :o)

    http://txfx.net/code/wordpress/subscribe-to-comments/

  5. EFL Geek wrote:

    I’m a big moodle advocate and have no intention of using the blog module for moodle. When I use blogs with students I will send them to a place like http://eslblogs.org or some other free wordpress provider.

    James, I’m subscribed to the comments on this blog the feed is at: http://e-poche.net/?feed=comments-rss2

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